5 Reasons Why Stella McCartney’s Peta Video is Crap

I almost never get bored of criticizing Britain’s most annoying vegetarian, but this time, Stella McCartney has gone to far. This video for Peta, where she is trying to convince people to stop wearing leather, is a load of crap. Here’s why.

1. Stella offers no alternatives. She is saying “Don’t wear leather.” But what are we supposed to wear? Sure, I can live (a sad life) without a leather jacket, but what would I wear on my feet? Plastic? Pleather? No. Stella, show me a VIABLE alternative (that looks good), and I will consider your suggestion. (And by the way, fake leather shoes and bags made from un-pronounciable products like Polyurethane Elastomere, that are priced at crazy high prices ARE NOT alternatives to a good leather shoe or bag.)

2. She sells overpriced clothing made of petroleum products. Fake leathers, or pleathers, are made from petroleum based products. Last time I checked, this world was a lot worse off because of our dependence on oil, rather than our dependence on animal products. In the video, Stella says “anyone who cares about animals or the environment should become informed consumers on this issue.” I totally agree. And being informed means knowing where things come from. Where do Stella McCartney’s materials come from? Several of them come from petroleum-based products. I’d rather wear a cow, which is what we have been doing for thousands of years, than wear something made from a bunch of words I don’t understand (I looked up one of the materials of Stella McCartney’s overpriced shoes, and here is the description on Wikipedia. It is complicated, and sounds a lot more scary than an animal.)

Stella Mccartney, leather, fashion lists

This overpriced bag is made from some very weird synthetic fabric, most likely made from a petrol based chemical.

3. The video contains lies. Animals are not skinned alive and here’s why: it is dangerous for the person skinning (the animal will be moving and might bite or scratch the person skinning), it takes WAY longer because the animals will be moving around and in distress (this is not economically viable), it is totally unethical (just because you are a farmer and you raise animals for meat or leather, doesn’t mean you want to see them suffer), and lastly, if an animal is alive, their heart wil be beating and that means blood will be ALL OVER THE PLACE. That is not a nice way to work, is it?

4. Showing gruesome images is a cheap tactic to gain attention. And she says “the toxic ground water near tanneries has caused health problems for residents in surrounding areas.” What about the areas surrounding the factories that make the Polyurethane Elastomere that her bags and shoes are made out of? Or perhaps she should post some of the images of the animals that died after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

Stella Mccartney, leather, fashion lists

Who actually buys plastic, fake-leather shoes for $700? THAT is unethical.

5. The best thing for the environment is to use what nature has given us. And I don’t mean frivolously, I mean respectfully. We are much better off using the resources the earth has given us: plants, animals, and other materials from the earth, in moderation. And we should also buy smart. Buy fairtrade, organic, and cruelty-free when you can. Getting rid of leather is a ridiculous idea, it is simply not going to happen. But trying to convince poeple to buy “good” leather, from ethical sources, is a worthy cause. It is just like chicken, you can choose to buy free range chickens that live a decent life, or you can choose to buy battery chickens pumped with medications and who spend their lives in a cage. It is about making choices, not putting the farmers out of business to build factories that make weird synthetic fabrics.

And by the way Stella, let’s get real for a moment. You are a bloody hypocrite, your company is owned by the Gucci Group, who makes almost ALL of their money from animals products. So if you are going to preach all this bullshit, at least distance yourself from a company who is know for making leather bags. Jeez.

  • http://www.annchingwang.com Annching Wang

    I’ve always found this aspect of Stella McCartney a little odd. Being a fan of leather myself (and a meat eater), but as someone who’s interested in aware and conscious design, I think educating ourselves on ethical leather options is a much better way to go. And it did seem very interesting that she would preach that this is for the good of the environment, when it really isn’t – and it isn’t hard to see why. In the end it does come across not only as hypocritical, but done solely for the sake of grabbing attention.

    Glad someone pointed it out!

  • http://www.imtheitgirl.com/ anya

    I agree with you on all 5 points. She really has to think about the carbon footprint of synthetic materials. Synthetic materials have their benefits (durability, “smart” fabrics etc), but most of the time, it’s just cheap plastic. 

  • Megan

    I totally agree with you, Alex. And let’s not forget how easy it is get vegetable tanned leathers, which avoid the use of many harmful chemicals and metals often used in the tanning process. We have immense power as consumers, by choosing products that share our ethical values, we are helping these companies grow stronger and make a difference.

  • jasper

    i didn’t even bother watching this until you posted it. so pointless and annoying when people get all self righteous and highfalutin about being environmentally friendly when they aren’t even.

    side note, i like her top!

  • diana

    Yes. My friend’s a vegetarian and she told me she was trying to stop buying clothing and accessories made out of materials like leather and wool. I just thought that was silly because, like you said, the alternative is to buy things that are just as expensive and made out of oil-based and man-made fibres. That is definitely more harmful to the environment than wearing real wool. Feeling icky about the fact that your clothing comes from sheep hair is more harmful than just being conscious about where your clothing is produce and the conditions in which it was made.

  • AnaO

    At least it doesn’t feature any naked, ridiculously photoshopped women, which is what I usually expect from Peta.

  • salome

    you are a boss.

  • Roshh Ko

    “Animals are not skinned alive” ? Are you sure? Have you seen it done? 
    Because in my opinion there is a reason why there are tons of videos on the internet on the subject. 
    I’m against using real leather and I think Stella’s pithon bags are definitely a very good replacement. However, I disagree about the man-made textiles because I believe there are what the future holds for fashion. Yes, petrolium is no better than skinning live animals but we can’t make fabrics out of sunlight, can we?

  • Anonymous

    I have done some work for the fur council, and I know (I am 100% sure) that animals are never skinned alive for their fur, so I don’t see why they would do it for leather. There are four very convincing reasons why this is not done: 1. If the animal is alive they will be moving, scratching, biting, etc… Which will make it a dangerous job for the person skinning. Why take the risk? 2. It is much more difficult to skin an animal alive, than it is to skin a dead one. It would not make sense financially to spend extra time skinning an animal. 3. If the animal is alive, their heart is beating, and therefore blood will be pumped and it will be all over the place. It will stain the leather, the fur, and make a huge mess. That’s why animals are skinned when they are dead. 4. Lastly, it is illegal and unethical. And while most people think that farmers are cruel, heartless people, it is in fact the opposite. They make a huge effort to ensure that the animals are well taken care of in life, and they want them to die humanely.
    Peta posted a video of an animal being skinned alive, and one of the fur associations (I can’t remember which one, I think it was NAFA) asked where this was happening so they could try and shut down the farm. Peta would not give them the location, so they did their own investigation. It turned out that Peta had paid someone to do this, so they could use the footage to scare people and make them stop buying fur. It obviously worked well for them, because a lot of people seem to think that it happens, when in fact it is never done.
    Alexandra Suhner Isenberg
    http://www.searchingforstyle.com

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Peta is pretty tasteless. This video is definitely a step up for them. I can’t believe Stella agreed to be involved with such a tacky organization. Alexandra Suhner Isenberg
    http://www.searchingforstyle.com

  • MatteaG

    i thought that the majority of people in india revered cows… i would be rather surprised if cows were treated badly there.

  • Roshh Ko

    Thank you for the answer. :) I didn’t know that. :)

  • Eve

    I think you will like this quote: “Of course they’re gonna get slaughtered. You think we’d have cattle if people didn’t eat ’em everyday? They’d just be funny-lookin’ animals in zoos. But we raise them for us. That means we owe them some respect. Nature is cruel, but we don’t have to be. I wouldn’t want to have my guts ripped out by a lion, I’d much rather die in a slaughterhouse if it was done right. ” -Temple Grandin 

  • Eve

    Also, to add to your point about cost, I have another great Temple Grandin quote: “Spooked cattle don’t act straight. They get bruised, scraped, drowned… that all cost money. It takes a good half an hour to calm a herd, and that all cost money too. It’s not a good way to run a stockyard. I believe what’s good for cattle is also good for business.” 

  • Juneyi

    Can you just shut up? Nobody actually reads your blog, so you should go and do something more worth with your life. Talking about this subject is the only way you gonna have people gather around here. When I first saw it I thought it’d be a nice blog but God I was so wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, that is a really insightful, intelligent comment. Care to add anything to the argument? Or are you just going to throw around childish insults. Judging my my Google Analytics, people DO read my blog, and thankfully, they are capable of writing educated comments, unlike yourself.
    Alexandra Suhner Isenberg
    http://www.searchingforstyle.com

  • Rudolf Seabra

    The first thing I thought about when I saw this video was “What a joke”. What annoys me a bit is that the fashion industry does not actually bother to defend leather and fur and its environmental qualities. That would put hypocrites like Stella in their place. Also disappointed at Cathy Horyn for not being her critical self as usual on this matter.

  • http://twitter.com/Ines_Cruz Inés Cruz

    I couldn’t agree more. Instead of
    just saying “NO” people in PETA should try and offer valuable options
    to what they’re against of… investing in programmes trying to teach companies
    how to keep up their business in an ethical way for animals could be one of the
    answers. Take Steven Spielberg in is latest film (the one of the horse), for
    example. He  hired a team from the
    American Humane Association Certified Animal Safety Representatives™ who
    monitored the animal action in the film so none of them would suffer or be
    stressed… maybe if they invested more time in education of the population and less on crappy videos full of celebrities they would be taken more seriously.

  • Mica

    I can’t believe that nobody has commented about the horrible, disturbing images shown in the video. I honestly couldn’t hear a word Stella was saying because I just had to stop watching. I everyone else so cold hearted?
    I Really don’t care if they were killed alive or in an “ethical” way because I simply think that they shouldn’t die. To me it’s obvious that the answer is in finding new materials that substitue leather, but that’s not going to happen anytime soon if instead of exploring the options available we shut down to new posibilities.
    And by the way, yes, you found some examples of really overpriced leather imitation accesories, congratulations, I don’t think that changes anything.

  • Anonymous

    Are you a vegan? Because if you aren’t, then you are a hypocrite.

  • http://twitter.com/SceneSiren Erin Mugavero

    I have dabbled in guilt-motivated veganism and vegetarianism from time to time in recent years, and I appreciate someone who looks at the facts on both sides.  I am all for vegans and vegetarians who eat unprocessed natural vegetables, fruits, and grains, and I do believe that all of us should consume these foods as the major basis for our diets for the sake of our own health as well as for the environment.  However, and I have consulted many well-respected and sought out doctors and alternative practitioners.  I have conducted my own research  in many articles and sources concerning the to-meat-or-not-to-meat topic, and I have found that it is far better to consume a free-range organic hormone-free, antibiotic-free happy egg, chicken, duck, quail, lamb, or cow than it is to eat some extremely processed, once-a-soybean and now unrecognizable to Mother Nature and therefore unrecognizable to our natural bodies piece of tempeh, TPV, tofu fak’um nuggets at the “natural” food market.  The same argument is at the basis of this one over leather vs. scary petroleum based products.  All things in moderation, if you ask me, but oil isn’t forever, and it isn’t clean!

  • Anonymous

    Great points, thank you. There is no doubt in my mind that consuming responsibility, and in moderation, is the best way forward.

  • Gil

    And you can add as another reason that, if somebody was sick and stupid enough to skin an anuimal alive, he would most likely pierce it and devalue his skin. Economically speaking, it’s a second reason not to do it.
    Actually, it was proven in court animal right extremist paid some people to skin live animal so they can film it and show to the world to raise some money… Way to go Stella, keep on encouraging those extremists.

  • elizabeth

    What is petroleum made of? Dead animals and fish that decomposed long time ago, but it’s OK to use them because they’re really really old dead animals. LIES! Animals used today or animals from yesterday are still using animals.

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    Holy crap, you are crazy. This is the first time I’ve heard this psychotic argument. Go animal rights activists! You guys make me laugh. And keep me in a job :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/patricia.betty.1 Patricia Betty

    Plastic fur and real fur pollute the earth. Why wear either. As for refusing to believe animals maybe skinned whilst still alive, the commentator really has no idea other than his/her own opinions. Perhaps it might be better to check it out thoroughly before trying to salve the consciences of those who want to pose in animal skins. Just a thought, if you were beaten and lay broken with bleeding internal organs, shivering and convulsing from the shock of being mauled in that way, I doubt you’d feel like putting up much of fight. You have jumped, with absolutely no evidence of your own, into refuting animals are skinned whilst still alive, and you have totally ignored the horrors of intensive farming, and the rough ways the animals are treated before they die. It isn’t just PETA who are claiming the torture happens. Respected animal rights advocates are making the same kind of statements. Try Care for the Wild International as one respected source, but there are many more out there. I wonder, if all of this is cheap propaganda, why some countries are looking to the banning of fur farms and others have no fur farms at all. I wouldn’t think governments would be swayed by hype from PETA, so there must be something in this cruelty claim after all.

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    Actually, I do have an idea other than my opinions, I am extremely well-educated in the fur industry and I know the facts, from research and having worked with people within the industry FIRST HAND. Lots of countries don’t have fur farms because their climates don’t allow for good fur farming. It is like saying there are lots of countries that don’t farm bananas. As for the skinning alive argument, here are four reasons why animals are NEVER skinned alive for their fur.

    1- It is illegal and unethical
    2- It is dangerous for the person skinning. Why take the risk of being bitten or scratched? Do it when the animal has been put down.
    3- It destroys the pelt. A beating heart means blood everywhere­. The whole point of skinning for fur is to have a good pelt, and if there is blood all over it, it is ruined.
    4- Skinning alive would involve trying to remove a pelt off an animal who is moving. This would take a considerable amount of time, whereas doing the same thing on a carcass would take a fraction of the time. It makes no sense economically.

  • Anna

    I have to say that I absolutely don’t agree with you, but respect your opinion nonetheless. I think this article is a bit too ‘black and white’. Nowadays cattle is treated absolutely horribly. Even if it’s so called ‘free range’ – when they’re ready to get killed most of them still get stacked upon each other in a truck, sitting there in pain and cold for maybe 7/8 hours. And I think it is absolutely ridiculous some people find this very normal. This is one of the main reasons I don’t eat meat nor wear leather/fur, and use ecological milk from the local farmer (or rather rice milk) etc. I simply don’t want to contribute to this disrespectful process they put animals through. At the moment we don’t really need animals anymore to stay healthy, warm and what not (I’m living proof), it just requires people to be non-lazy (and this is found to be a VERY big effort). They needed it during the Neanderthal time period, but that time’s over. Milk in fact, is proven to be one of the causes of today’s degenerative diseases and is simply meant for baby cows.

    You’re probably right about the fact that Stella’s shoes/bags aren’t the most environmentally friendly ones, and it’s wrong of her to market them that way, however the decision of not using real leather to me is a sign of development and innovation in today’s world. It’s refreshing she makes people realize they’re actually wearing skin of an animal that had to give up its life for it (and how).

    Another thing that I find a bit disturbing is that people who decide not to eat meat but still wear a bit of leather are being bashed. For example, some people give money to a charity fighting child labor, but still buy clothes at H&M, isn’t that quite the same? Isn’t it a good thing people at least take 1 step into the right direction? Even though it’s a baby step? Big changes simply don’t happen overnight, but it’s still not a reason to degrade someone for it. It should be seen as a positive thing.

    Finally, animals do get skinned alive unfortunately; just look at the fur farms in China. There’s enough material about it. And the fact that you think gruesome pictures/videos are cheap tactics, maybe so. But it’s still reality and too many people close their eyes for it.

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    You’ve made some very good points, but I’d like to say that I don’t personally bash people who are vegetarian but wear a bit of leather. That’s their decision, and if they think it is making a small difference, then that is great. But I have a major problem with those that spend huge amounts of energy bashing the fur industry, and basically ignoring the meat and leather industries. The fur industry is an easy target, particularly in Canada, where it is almost all small businesses. Why don’t any of these activists go up against Safeway? Too much work. And in this case, I don’t think it is about making a small difference, because fur is one of the least cruel and smallest of the “animal use industries.” In North America, we kill 7-8 million animals for fur in a year, and 12 billion animals for food.

    Which bring me to the skinning alive lie. The cheap tactics you are referring to is a very, very small number of videos which were made by animal rights activists. When the first one came out (and as far as I know, there is only one) the international fur associations contacted Peta to find out where the skinning took place so that they could investigate it. Peta refused to give sources (which is suspect) so they investigated on their own and found out it was an Asian man who was paid to do that, by Peta (unethical tactics seem to be commonplace for them.)

    And if you don’t believe that, then here are four reasons why animals are NEVER skinned alive for fur:

    1. It is totally unethical and illegal.
    2. It is dangerous, skinning an animal that has been euthanized is simple, when they are alive, they will be moving, biting, and scratching and this poses a personal risk for the person skinning.
    3. In the video Peta made, it took half an hour or so for the animal to be skinned, because it was alive. A euthanized animal takes less than 5 minutes to skin. Even if you refuse to believe that the fur industry has ethics or follows laws, you can’t disagree that profits are important, and no one would do something using a method that is more time consuming and dangerous, than one that is safer and quicker.
    4. Lastly, and not least, if an animal is alive during skinning, their heart will be beating and pumping blood all over the place. As a result, the pelt will get ruined by blood, which completely defeats the purpose of raising and skinning the fur bearing animal in the first place.

    Any intelligent person cannot disagree that these facts make sense, and that skinning an animal alive is not safe, profitable, or ethical.

  • Random reader

    Just stumbled upon this page, I’d like to offer a differing perspective…

    1. Stella offers no alternatives. —- Leather isn’t the only material out there that can be used to cover and warm our bodies. Clearly you’re very concerned with clothing that isn’t only practical but also fashionable, and think leather is fashionable. But this video was probably made to sway people who do not have such a firm opinion on the necessity of leather jackets as yourself. As far as shoes go, there are such thins as fake leather and fake suede, which can actually be made to look and feel luxurious and hold up better to things like water and the ware and tear of time.

    2. She sells overpriced clothing made of petroleum products —-

    “Last time I checked, this world was a lot worse off because of our dependence on oil, rather than our dependence on animal products.” There is synthetic petroleum, manufactured in a laboratory, which is most likely what Stella’s company uses, thus I don’t see how the worlds dependence on oil plays into this particular argument..

    “…something made from a bunch of words I don’t understand…” It’s called chemistry. Molecules tend to have complicated names. That doesn’t guarantee that they’re unsafe. Also just because a certain chemical in it’s pure, industrial-grade form is harmful doesn’t mean a product it can be used to make will necessarily be harmful. Take a look at the cosmetics industry, most of the things in your face cream are probably worse.

    3. The video contains lies. —- How do we know what you’re saying isn’t a lie? Or what the industry tells us it DOESN’T do because it’s “illegal” isn’t a bunch of lies? I agree that skinning a live animal isn’t efficient, but that doesn’t guarantee to me as a consumer that it doesn’t happened.

    4. Showing gruesome images is a cheap tactic to gain attention. —- Yes. So what? As long as the videos aren’t staged and depict what is actually happening in some (if not most) of these fur factories, cheap or not, it’s more effective than just words.

    5. The best thing for the environment is to use what nature has given us. —- This point I find the most interesting. We’re using what nature gave us with oil, and where is that leading us? Nature gave us soil abundant in natural nutrients, and what have we done? Deplete our soil to the point where we need to use synthetic chemicals to help the crops grow (those complex sounding chemicals you don’t want in your handbag but are OK ingesting). I mean I can go on and on here, but the point is that there is NOTHING wrong with trying to better what we consume and how we consume it, including material goods. It make actually be better for the environment.

    You don’t have to agree with Stella’s view on fashion, life, etc. But I just find your argument debasing her position to be full of flaws and contradictions. I would think that if you’re going to attach your name to something like this, you would at least write an argument based more on fact and less on your personal opinion, which clearly permeates throughout this entire article.

    -Not a vegan nor vegetarian, lover of all things fur and leather; dislike poorly constructed arguments against someone trying to make a difference, however small.

  • emasal

    I can not STAND this woman and her hypocrisy. The fur/leather issue aside, she bangs on about the environment and how we should be eco-friendly by not eating meat. In the meantime she has produced 4 children, has an ENORMOUS house in London (I live just round the corner, it is HUGE and seems to be uninhabited most of the time) plus a country pad and an apartment in NYC, maybe more; such as a place in the Caribbean, I don’t know (her carbon footprint must be huge just to get from one place to another, let alone the environmental costs of producing and shipping her products from China).

    We all know that one of the most critical issues in regards to the environment is over-population yet she has pumped out the 4 kids willy-nilly, I suppose that she thinks of herself as special and above the rest of us plebs. Her father owns a sheep farm in Scotland that is purely for the purpose of producing wool; fair enough but the methane gas produced by those animals contributes to the problem of farm pollution; perhaps their sheep don’t fart?

    Back to the fur/leather trade. Her company is owned by Gucci!!!!! She is best friends (reportedly) with Kate Moss, who proudly advocates wearing fur and Ms McCartney has obviously held no sway over her; perhaps Kate too sees her as the hypocrite that she is.

    I’m so fed up with these celebs who lecture us and don’t practise what they preach. Look at yourself, Stella, look at your behaviour and that you are doing your causes no favours. I have been a vegetarian most of my life but I don’t lecture others about it, I don’t have the arrogance. Get off your high horse and live your life by your own supposed principles. Ha ha, that’d be a fine day!

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    Wow. Thank you for this fantastic comment. I loathe Stella McCartney, and I loathe hypocritical animal rights activists, but you’ve brought up some fantastic arguments I hadn’t even thought of. You are totally right about her multiple homes, and multiple kids. Thank you so much for this insightful comment!

  • jessica

    this is such a great thread. it’s nice to hear people really engage in this conversation…..

    as a footwear designer, it’s something that i think about a lot. and here’s the thing-

    THERE’S NO WAY TO GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

    if you’re buying a product, it had to come from somewhere. it has to be manufactured by chemistry from some base materials, or it has to be grown from the earth or on an animal’s back. these things are as true for the food industry as they are for clothing.

    there are no “clean” alternatives for leather. there are polluting wastes that are generated by tanning leather with chrome, as well as vegetable tanning agents (which are natural, but nonetheless very poisonous, when dumped into bodies of water & ground water), and certainly from the manufacturing of “faux” leathers.

    one thing that can be done is for consumers to demand that the manufacturers of these materials take responsibility for cleaning up these wastes, and making sure they don’t enter their local eco-systems. many of these wastes can be neutralized……….. which is time consuming, and expensive. and manufacturers won’t do it, unless they think it will benefit their bottom line. which is why you should vote with your money.

    $100 for a pair of shoes won’t do it. you’ll need to radically look at your spending, and make the decision of whether you want to buy 5-6 pair of shoes in a year, all of which contribute to pollution, or whether you want to buy one pair every year or two. if you can make that commitment, you can make a difference.

    fur & “exotic” skins are very much a different story. i find it hard to make an argument that one might “need” to use those skins. i tend to shy away from fur, but will admit that i love the texture of exotic skins. there *are* work arounds.

    i agree that stella mccartney’s position on these issues does seem hypocritical. mostly, because it’s impossible to get something for nothing. her shoes aren’t “clean”. but i’m guessing that the manufacturers of her materials do put the effort into cleaning up the waste they create. which does justify the price her company charges for shoes & accessories that are made of pu.

    but, as alexandra & other point out, there are sooooooo many other aspects to her lifestyle, investors and business practice that make her look hypocritical.

    i applaud ms mccartney’s effort to make people aware of these issues. but i think her involvement in groups like peta is regrettable. there’s no need to be a poster child. stick to your work, stella, and your message. there’s no need to get involved with claims that are patently false and inflammatory.

    like alexandra, i’m not a fan of stella mccartney. but for me, it’s because i find 75% of the work that she does to be boring. i don’t think she’s particularly “visionary” or creating looks that mean much to me. so, i don’t buy her products. but i do invest into well-made goods that are produced with some awareness of the world around them. i don’t buy things from retailers who i know use incredibly shady sourcing, or are definitely, without a doubt polluting the ground water in the places where they manufacture.

    YOU CAN’T GET SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. every single thing that you buy has an effect on the world that you live in. it doesn’t mean you have to stop buying. it just means you have to start *thinking*. and believing in the decisions that you make.

    i don’t think stella is living up to that. i think she’s become a poster child for a movement that has swept her along with their sensationalist attitude……. but maybe that’s because it’s what she’s become known for? i mean, really, without peta & the animals rights movement…. she’s just another rich girl making another pair of wide legged pants.

    snore.

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    Great comment. Two points, firstly, I don’t think you should presume that the manufacturers of Stella’s materials clean up. This isn’t something she talks about, and knowing her, she’d be screaming about it from the rooftops if it were true. Also, PPR is about bottom line, so I don’t think additional efforts like this would be made without promoting them. Secondly, you may not see the need for fur, but in cold countries, we need to keep warm. What are the alternatives? Synthetics, wool,… Surprisingly due is actually very environmentally friendly, there are very few chemicals used in the processing, it’s local, sustainable, biodegradable, and long lasting (at least, North American and European furs are, and that’s the industries I support.)

  • Xavier Sancho

    Dude ….fucking cruelty sucks my balls. Do you understad you fucking faggot? What part don’t you understand? Wana be my fucking leather for my shoes? wana be my pet? Why don’t you give me your son for my dinner? Well….thats it you fucking faggot.FUCK your bullshit about polution and about all your crap.

  • Xavier Sancho

    Let me say it again ……whoever respects cruelty con go fuck himself and should get an iron rod shoved up their ASS.

  • applemoon

    Good point but they actually do skin some of the snake’s and reptiles alive. Treating the animals kind is so 1950’s their might be some farmers who treat the animals they use for profit kind but I’d say very few, She grew up vegan so for her that’s her life’s mission oh ya she is also very rich hence her daddy. She is right they do treat the animals horrible maybe you should watch the Peta video her dad did on how chicken’s are treated it’s disgusting to think that anyone could treat an animal so cruel when they have done nothing. Unfortunately it’s never going to stop because there is such a need for it. I would like to say it crack’s me up when Hollywood always tries to protest this and that and raise awareness yet the only people who can afford their clothing is them. So here’s a suggestion make your animal cruelty clothing more affordable so that more people can actually afford to buy them.

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    There is simply no way anyone would skin a snake alive. There is no benefit whatsoever. Read my four points above – and consider who dangerous it would be for a snake, who has sharp teeth and venom, to be skinned alive. It makes no sense! It is dangerous. All animals are euthanized before they are skinned. And yes, I agree that there needs to be more affordable “ethical” clothing, but we need to remember what ethical actually means. Should we all be able to afford 30 new pieces of clothing a year? We don’t need that much. But we should all be able to afford what we NEED, and it should be produced ethically.

  • Sienna

    Well written response Alexandra!

  • Sienna

    Further to the issue of petroleum products 1)Leather is way more durable(important in Canadian climate), therefore promoting REUSING–less wastage. 2) Leather molds to your foot in shoes (ergonomics) and allows skin to breathe – pretty sure petroleum does offer these benefits.

  • Michelle

    This is great!

  • Nadine

    Not educated at all. I have seen firsthand animals skinned alive. I didn’t even bother reading the rest of your torrent of misinformation after that….

  • alexandrasuhnerisenberg

    First hand? That means you actually witnessed this happening live? Then you must work for PETA because all of the videos on the internet were orchestrated by PETA. They paid people to do it – and it was a very successful campaign because everyone thinks it actually happened.

    If you actually do care about animals, then please send me the details of the farm (or other place) you witnessed this happened and I will forward them on to the authorities or the International Fur Trade Federation and they will investigate immediately as this is highly illegal and not acceptable.

  • Francesca

    Very well put!..As a designer I have researched alternatives in synthetic based fashion and found there are ways of introducing earth friendly innovative fabrics…maybe Stella should watch “THE NEXT BLACK!”

  • Good Grief

    You’re seriously making this up. It’s commonly known that snakes and other reptiles are skinned alive because in many Asian countries (where most of them are harvested) it’s believed that skinning the animal alive makes the leather more pliable and therefore more valuable. You pin the snake’s head to a tree, one person holds its tail, and the other slices down it lengthwise to remove its skin. No biting and the skin isn’t damaged.

    Ostrich leather has its distinctive marks because they’re tied up and plucked alive before being slaughtered.

    Calf leather (almost all middle range-luxury leather goods) comes from either veal calves, which is an industry NO ONE should support, or foetal calves. The most luxurious leather comes when pregnant dairy cows are sent to slaughter. You can actually see the baby kicking to survive while the mother is killed. The baby is then cut out and if it’s heart is still beating they insert a needle into its hear to drain its blood to sell to labs. They’re then skinned. The leather fetches the highest price because its unblemished and is used for ultimate luxury goods.

    This isn’t some vegan fear mongering. It’s a common-sense aspect of the leather industry. Sad, but true. I don’t see how working with the fur council – which is probably more biased than PETA and obviously working in its own interest – means you know more than everyone else. You clearly don’t know the basics of what it takes to turn a living animal into a bag.

    Even if they’re still in the works, I applaud the changes she’s trying to make. You’re tangent isn’t well-reasoned and sounds like it’s coming from your own guilt over wearing coats made from 40 slaughtered animals.

  • Good Grief

    Forgive the autocorrect grammar issues